11 July 2015

Shotgun Ammunition Performance for Home Defense

Once again, I must apologize for taking so long to post new material here! However, this topic comes up with monotonous regularity and the amount of misinformation concerning it is mind-boggling. Here are the results of some testing that we did back in 2009 that may clear up some things for you...

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Shotgun Ammunition Performance for Home Defense

This began as a response to a guy that had posted his experience shown in the bracketed text below...
[[Originally Posted by Xxxxxx
Just a warning... I just did some running/shooting drills with 20ga birdshot out of a 28" barrel with a modified choke.
Granted, I was shooting 7 1/2 shot, where 6-shot & a 12ga would probably be what you chose... 
Still, even at 7 yards where the pattern is only about 2 inches in diameter, the shot only penetrated about 3/8" into a weather-worn 2x6.
I've heard some people say birdshot is the same as buckshot at close ranges... and I don't think it's true.
Xxxxxx]]
After seeing this, I decided to do some testing and posted my results in the same forum...
  Seeing how far lead shot goes into a wooden 2x6 at 7 yards tells you approximately how far your shot will penetrate into a 2x6 at 7 yards. I'm not sure that that is a reasonable indicator as to how well the same load will perform in human tissue at the same range. It might offer a little more information to shoot it into something that is flesh and bone. Shoot into a turkey or ham at the same distance and see what you get. By the way, set a doll behind the turkey a couple of feet away for visual effect. You might be surprised.

I realize that 7 yards is pretty standard for testing performance and I generally agree on that but for home defense, well, I don't know for sure. The way my house is arranged, there's only 1 place that I can get a 7 yard shot. 3 to 5 yards would easily be the average.
This is not to be argumentative but consider this: You do your testing at 3-5 yards and see if your chosen load is acceptable. If you like it, good. That means that any pellets that miss won't be doing much damage beyond that. Birdshot will almost certainly not OVER-penetrate except at point-blank range.

Since frozen turkeys are so cheap, buy 2 or 3 of them and do the same thing with #4 buck and 00 buck.

No, I am not trying to convince everyone that #7.5 birdshot is the best home defense load by any means, but I surely do NOT believe that 00 buck is either. At least not if you have people in other parts of the house.
Or if you live a trailer park with another trailer right next door.
Or if you live in an apartment or duplex where the neighbor's kid sleeps just 8" on the other side of that wall.

I think #4 buck or #2 birdshot might be a better choice.
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We went out to the range one morning before we opened and played with the scatterguns a little bit. Pretty interesting. We got it all on video and I'll try to put it on YouTube one of these days. But here's what we found out anyway

I took a couple good-sized, thawed, bone-in pork shoulders approximately 7" thick and put them a pedestal at the customary 7 yards. The first one was shot with the #4 buck and the second with #2 birdshot. The gun was 12 gauge Mossberg 590 with cylinder bore. Without seeing the video, you will never be able to appreciate what we saw but both sizes of shot would be more than adequate. The difference between the two was pretty much indistinguishable. The shoulders both blew up like they had grenades in them. We found pieces of meat as far away as 17 yards forward of the pedestal and 20 yards behind it. Most of the pieces were between the size of a marble and golf ball and they were EVERYWHERE, including the back window of my truck which was 13 yards behind where the meat was. A half dozen pieces were slabs the size of your hand. I will have to review the video in slo-mo to see for sure but we all agreed that the #2 birdshot was more dramatic than the buckshot.

We also shot some 5 gallon jugs of water with 7.5 and #2 birdshot; and #4 and 00 buck. The results were pretty inconclusive because the plastic was so thick.
The 7.5 caved in the front of the jug a little but only a few of the pellets entered it with 0 exiting. The jug tipped up but did not quite fall off the stand.

Quite a few of the #2's entered, 0 exits and the energy transferred to the jug knocked it off the stand and about 3' from it.

All of the #4 buck entered, most exited with a few bouncing off the inside of the jug and remaining inside. The distance that the jug was knocked off was virtually identical to the #2 birdshot.

All of the the 00 entered and 75% of them exited (these were 12-pellets loads). Three of them bounced off the inside and remained in the jug. The distance that the jug was knocked off was virtually identical to the #2 birdshot.

I bought 4 turkeys the night before to test all 4 sizes of shot but they weren't thawed enough to use the next morning. We left them in the conex out at the range so that we could continue the tests the next day.

Here is more of the original poster's comments...
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This afternoon, I am going to use my 12ga Winchester model 12 (at least 28" barrel, so we'll be getting MAX velocity)
Velocity will not change much, if any, by using a 12 gauge, providing you're using the same type of shell. He said the 20 gauge that he used originally had a 28" bbl also. There will be a larger amount of shot, thus a larger shot column using the 12 gauge, but it won't be going any faster. In fact, you may find the smaller gauge to be faster depending on manufacturer. If you use Winchester AA trap loads in your 20 gauge and Winchester high velocity hunting loads in the 12 gauge then yes, the 12 ga will be faster. Federal lists it's 12 gauge Premium Gold Medal as 1180 fps for 1 oz. of shot and 1145 for 1 1/8 oz. of shot. The same shell in 20 ga is listed as 1200 fps but for 7/8 oz. of shot. The same shell in a .410 runs 1230 fps but with 3/4 oz. shot.

Contrary to very popular belief, you'll find that going to a 3" magnum doesn't usually give you any more velocity either and in most cases is slower than the 2 3/4". The 3" shell gives you more shot, not more speed. A 3" Federal Power-Shok with 00 buck runs 1210 fps. The same size shot in a 2 3/4" shell runs 1325. Different manufacturers and configurations will vary slightly but not that much.

I would never, in my wildest nightmares, use slugs in a HD gun.

Think about this also. Handguns are ballistically inferior to everything else out there except slingshots so we all teach, "double taps", "controlled pairs", "shoot 'em to the ground!" or whatever. No one will ever convince me that a "controlled pair" of #6 or 7.5 birdshot at accepted defensive ranges will not stop 99% of the people you use it on. If it doesn't, what do you with the other 1%? It's called a "failure to stop" shot. Show me a guy that can take a couple of loads of birdshot to the chest and another to face and still be a danger to me and I'll show you a guy that won't stop with 2-.308's in his chest either. Way too many places train people to shoot just once with a shotgun assuming that it will always stop the guy. It might not so I would plan for a follow-up shot with it just as I would any other weapon, no matter what size shot I was using. Once again, I don't claim that #7.5 shot out of a shotgun is anywhere near optimum but I don't think 00 buck is either. I don't want people thinking that 7.5 is woefully inadequate either.

I have killed way more animals in my life than some folks would think was ethically necessary. The whys and wheres and whens of all that are irrelevant right now but suffice it to say that that kind of thing just comes with living on a ranch and hunting for 50 years. What does this have to do with anything?

About 25 years ago, I shot a coyote that was terribly stricken with mange near San Augustine, TX, from a moving pick-up at about 35 miles an hour with a full-choked 20 ga loaded with Federal Express #6 birdshot. The animal was standing, broad-side, just up from the bar ditch and I was driving down a 2-lane hwy so she was around 40' or so away. A few of the pellets went completely through her and she died instantly. I still have pictures. I shot another one with the same load also from around 40' away. He was sitting facing me and I hit him dead-center chest. He was thrust back on his haunches and died instantly. I didn't do an autopsy to see what the damage was but from the way he died, I'd say his giblets got stirred up pretty well.
Does this make #6 birdshot the ideal coyote load? Certainly not but it does kinda give you an idea of the relative effectiveness of small shot in living tissue.
The point of the coyote experiences above were more for the penetration factor than the fact that they died. There is much discussion concerning passing along those "one-in-a-million" kills or failure to kill as fact. I once shot a chicken-killing German Shepherd at 70 yards with a G23 and he dropped like he'd been hit with a .30-06. Funny thing though, 2 years later, I shot a rabbit-stealing German Shepherd at 45 yards with a 165 gr. SPBT out of a .30-06 and he ran all the way home and lived. It was good shot. He had just pulled out from the our fence where the small animals were and was running down the road. The bullet hit about 2" behind the shoulder and, of course, went all the way through. The dog, ran home and I figured he'd die. I went over to tell the owner what happened and he rushed the dog to the vet and he was out running around in a few days. I shot his brother a year earlier (he was in the horse corral) with the same gun and load and he was dead before he hit the ground. Very strange.

Originally Posted by Xxxxxx
Something else I just thought of...

It may be apples and oranges to compare the damage bird shot does to coyotes and turkeys to what it could do to humans. I think it's fair to call humans "Big Game", so testing the penetration on a deer rib cage might be a good idea.

If a human's 'parts' are twice as big as a coyote's parts, than the birdshot compared to a human is the equivalent of shot twice as big when fired at a coyote.

Anyway, it could be argued that a .10 caliber pellet hitting a coyote is the same thing as a .20 caliber pellet hitting a human...an animal twice as large. A turkey? Maybe it would be like a .40 caliber pellet hitting a human. A rabbit? Maybe it would be like a 1.10 caliber pellet hitting a human.

Do you see what I mean?
I see your point, yes. The problem with ballistic testing is that there are just no absolutes. The turkey, in my mind, might KINDA give me an idea of what kind of penetration to expect out of any given shot but it doesn't have the heavy human breast bone or the proper sized vitals but I think it will be much better than a milk jug full of water or a 2x6. I've put ads in the newspaper trying to get some liberals to volunteer for some realistic, scientific ballistic testing but, so far, no takers.

A lot of folks insist that testing into ballistic gelatin is somehow a realistic way to test ballistics but there's something about testing in ballistic gelatin that just doesn't quite sit well with me. Yes, it's consistent but it's not meat. It has no bones, no tendons or sinew or cavities or different textures. To get exact comparisons of the performance of certain projectiles, I have no doubt that it is a good way to do it but I'm just not convinced that ANY projectile performs the same way in jello as it does in meat. Some will say that I'm full of it but that's still how I see it. 
OK, back to the original topic...here’s my thoughts on birdshot vs. buckshot for home defense.

We shot 4 - 13# turkeys and the results were pretty much what we expected although the #4 buck didn't do exactly what I thought it would. They were all dressed up a T-shirt and Carhart style jacket. The gun was a Mossberg 590, cylinder-bore 12 gauge firing from 7 yards. #7.5 shot is .10" in diameter and there is about 350 of them in a standard 2.75" shell. The #2 is .15" with 87 pellets. The #4 buck .25" with 24 pellets. The 00 buck is .33" and there are normally 9 pellets in a shell. For those not familiar with shot sizes, here's a comparison photo.
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As expected, the #7.5 birdshot spread out quite bit but still easily went through all the clothing. Even the single pellets went through the clothing and entered the turkey. The bulk of the pellets made an entrance wound about 2"x2.5" and went through to the back where most of the shot embedded and did not exit. The shot pushed the turkey off of the table.




The #2 birdshot did very well as far as I'm concerned. Because of the clothing, it was difficult to tell exactly where the breast was and we missed the center a little bit but the #2 made a very impressive entrance by severing a leg and in turn causing a gaping entrance wound. Pretty much all the shot went all the way through, even after going through the leg and bone. Some of the shot exited and large portion of it stopped right under the skin on the off-side. I have no doubt that the over-whelming majority would have exited had we been 2 yards closer. This load rolled the turkey end-over-end off the table.

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The #4 buck also did well but I expected a little better penetration. The hole made by the main shot column (top hole) was about an inch around and was encircled by 7 pellets that left the main column. The lower hole was made by the wad. This load did quite a bit of damage but it appeared that only about 3/4 of them exited. One pellet was found just under the skin and 4 more poured out when we undressed the turkey. There is no doubt that it all would exited had we been just a tad closer. The turkey did not leave the table.

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100% of the 00 buck penetrated completely. The entrance hole was about 3/4"x1" with no stray pellets. The damage inside was extensive. We opened it up a little more to look for pellets and found none. I think we would have had 100% exit even if we had moved back 3, maybe even 5 yards farther. Since we had total penetration, we started looking for the pellets. We found where they hit the dirt bank 4 yards behind the table and dug up a couple of them 7" deep. From the way they are deformed, they hit the dirt pretty hard. No other pellet of any size showed much deformation just from the turkey. The turkey slid off the table but not nearly as dramatically as one would have expected due to the total penetration. The reason it slid off the table was because of the force of the amount tissue that left the turkey being propelled into the clothing that the turkey was dressed in.







This test just confirmed my thoughts on this subject. While #7.5 is far from optimum, I think it would work fine in the majority of cases. I'd a hell of lot rather have that than a .380. The way the bird left the table indicated that all of the energy was absorbed by the body even if internal damage wasn't as much as the others. The #2 did just what I had hoped and expected. Almost total penetration and 100% energy transfer which was apparent by the way the turkey was rolled off the table. The danger of over-penetration was minimized while offering good terminal performance. The #4 buck also did well with more damage to the inside than the #2 but less energy transfer because most of the shot exited. This was the only bird that didn't leave the table. The 00 with total penetration did a lot of damage with a LOT of danger behind the target. If those pellets hit hard enough to deform and go 7" deep into soil, there is some concern for me in the home. I'm with everyone else as far as the effectiveness of heavier buck but I am very comfortable with a little sacrifice in terminal performance for the peace of mind that I am not sending .33 caliber lead balls into the next room or trailer house or apartment addressed to whom it may concern..
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02 January 2015

Why I Died...

 Why I Died


As I lay there mortally wounded, with my life slipping away, I could not help remembering the words of the instructor who had taught my concealed carry class. He said, “This training is not the end, and really not even a good beginning for your self-defense training. Get some more training!” His point, as he often repeated during the one-day class, was that I was not even close to being prepared for the real deal if it happened to me or any of the other 15 students in the class.

Now I am not sure about them, but I knew he spoke the truth about me. Fitness has never been part of my life, that firearm class was my first (just to get my carry permit), and I honestly preferred to spend my money on the skiing trip I had planned with my buddies rather than paying for more training or practice ammunition. The class got me the certificate I needed to legally carry a gun, and with a gun I had the great equalizer, right?
Wrong. During that day of training, my instructor listed all the things he wished each of us would do to ensure our survivability. I could not help thinking of those things, all of which had affected the outcome on this fateful day for me.

Fitness
My instructor was really serious about this one. He said that during a fight, no one was immune to the catastrophic responses of the human body under stress. He made it very clear that just owning and even carrying a gun are not the answers unless a high level of fitness and plenty of ingrained skill accompany them. He told us that most encounters would be very close, and might actually be a physical fight first. He was right.

My encounter started with a punch to the side of my head from an unobserved attacker. Even though I was armed with my trusty gun, my mind went blank after that first punch and I could not believe the terror I felt. I was frozen and didn’t know what to do as more punches impacted my face and neck. Once I finally got the mental signal to do something, I could feel my pulse in my ear and would have sworn that my eardrums were about to be blown out with the pressure I felt with every beat of my heart.

Fight back? I tried, but found that the few punches I threw back had no effect on my attacker. After hitting him several times with no effect, my arms got so heavy that I could not raise them to protect my head. I felt weak, and my heart rate had gone up so high that I began to have problems thinking and seeing clearly.
I wish I had worked through this feeling in the gym a few times to get prepared before it happened to me. Could this really be happening to me?

Training

Getting more training was not “optional,” my instructor said. In fact, he told us this so many times throughout the day, I found myself getting sick of hearing it. But he was right. He mentioned that with the proper training, a person would learn all the critical pieces of the self-defense puzzle. He said that learning how to defend against an attack might include using punches and kicks initially, and maybe even knowing how to wrestle someone on the ground before I had a chance to draw my handgun.

I really needed that information when, after my attacker had punched me a dozen times, he knocked me to the ground and began to stab me with a knife he had in his waistband. If I had known just a few techniques to protect myself and maybe launch a counterattack, maybe I would not be lying here bleeding out on this cold pavement. No one knows I am here. I feel so alone.


Practice
My instructor told me that I did not even need ammunition to practice! He told me that I could practice my drawing techniques in a safe area without spending a dime on ammunition. He called it “dry fire,” and said that the most important thing I could do was learn how to get my gun out quickly. He did say that the concealed carry course we were taking would not teach me the draw process, so a few of us stayed after class and got to practice some draws under our instructor’s watchful eye.

It was great information, but after the class I did not make even the slightest effort to practice it. I wish I had, since after being stabbed a few times, I got one lucky punch in to my attacker’s nose. It actually knocked him back into a car, and I had a couple of seconds to grab my gun and save my own life…too bad I didn’t know how to get my shirt out of the way.

Getting my hand on my gun was not even possible, since I fumbled with my shirt and my attacker immediately recognized what I was doing. He was street smart and came after me with the knife again. Those next few stabs to my neck and head area really did some serious damage. I had the chance to defend myself for those few seconds and I missed it! Now I lay, nearly lifeless, wishing I had listened to those wise words: “Practice drawing your firearm every day.”
Responsibility

In class we discussed the laws surrounding carrying a firearm, and how we were responsible to follow them, but my instructor was not afraid to point out another responsibility. The responsibility to prepare. To his students, the instructor said, “Take responsibility for your own survival.” No one would be there for us when the ultimate test occurred. He said that all our excuses for failing to heed what he told us would be worthless. He was right.

All the reasons I found to ignore his advice reverberated in my mind now, and I felt myself screaming inside my own head at how stupid I had been. But it was too late. I felt my life slipping away. As I lay there within minutes of death, I prayed for a second chance. I prayed for the opportunity to prepare like my instructor had begged me to. If only I had listened! If given a second chance, I would prepare like my life depended on it … because it did.

My instructor attended my funeral and prayed for me.
This is your chance. Prepare like your life depends on it. Take responsibility for your own survival.

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27 September 2014

I Canceled My Life Insurance Today...

I Canceled My Life Insurance Today...


A few years ago, I wrote a piece entitled "Why I Carry Openly" in which I explained why I chose to carry my weapon openly instead of concealed most of the time. It's a personal decision and is definitely NOT for everyone. In that article, I made several references to the importance of carrying every day. In view of some recent events, I feel compelled to expound on that a little bit.

I will summarize this very briefly here in the beginning. I carry every waking moment of every day of my life and have for the last 22 years. My wife does, my two oldest daughters do, my son-in-law does and the majority of my friends do. I strongly recommend that you do the same.

When I say you should carry ALL the time, I mean ALL the time! Parties, church, work, recreational activities, around the house, even in the bathroom. Wait, what? The bathroom? Where are you the most vulnerable during your daily routine? Most people will say while they are asleep but that's not true. Many gunowners sleep with a handgun on the nightstand or a shotgun in the corner by the bed and are more likely to wake up when they hear something out of place. Its a lot harder to hear with the shower running. If someone were intent on doing you harm or stealing something specific, all they need to do is wait until you go to the bathroom. Oh! You have an alarm system in your home? Of course you do. And how long does it take the police to respond? The old saying is, when seconds count, cops are only minutes away. Do a search and use the term, "Woman attacked in bathroom." I get 17,600,000 results. How about man attacked in bathroom? 34,700,000 results.
Anywhere that you are allowed by law to carry, carry. It doesn't make you paranoid, it makes you smart.

OK, let's look at the logic, or lack thereof, of choosing not to carry.
Do you get up some days and call your insurance company and tell them to cancel your insurance on your car? Makes sense, right? You're a good driver. You don't plan to have a wreck, right? Isn't it easy enough to just call State Farm and reinstate your policy on the day that you know you're going to need it? Of course it is! This is what you are doing each and every time you decide to leave your gun at home. You're saying to yourself, "This won't be the day. I have no enemies. I will not be attacked today." Makes sense, right? Wrong!

You pay thousands of dollars each year for automobile insurance on a car that you never wreck, a boat that never sinks, a motorcycle that never gets stolen and a house that never burns down. THOUSANDS! Yet when I ask that you spend between $300 and $600 for a ONE-TIME life insurance policy in the form of a decent quality handgun, you cry, "Oh! That's too much!" You have a fire extinguisher in your house and your car, you wear helmets, and seat belts and we have air bags and car seats...but no gun? Think about it.

I did a presentation for a large church in New Mexico one time at the behest of one of the members who was desperately trying to convince the congregation of the wisdom of carrying a gun. I did a little research before I went and came up with some interesting facts. I researched police, fire and newspaper archives and came up with both the number of violent assaults and murders versus the number of homes that burned down during the same 90 day period prior to this presentation. Violent assaults-6, number of homes burned-0. Zero. Zilch, none, nada, het. Do you know how many school children have been killed or injured by school fires in the United States since 1908? None that I can find yet we can't seem to get guns in schools either. That's a different story for another time. My point is, Americans spend tons of money and materials to prepare the most unlikely things but pretend that the potentially most likely hazard won't ever happen to them.

I put my gun on every morning when I get dressed. Every morning. It's not a conscious decision that I make, it is something that I have done for so long and it is so important to me that it has become something that is an unconscious, reflexive action. No different than my shirt or shoes. I am to the point that it is utterly impossible for me to "forget" to don my weapon. Most of my gun-toting family members and friends have also reached that level of "unconscious competency" as it pertains to getting dressed properly. I don't put on a particular ensemble and then try to figure out where I am going to put my gun. I put my gun on the same way, in the same place every day. If my chosen clothing for the day will not accommodate that, I'll figure out something else to wear. In short, I dress around my gun.

The two most important factors in choosing how you will carry that gun are accessibility and comfort with comfort being #1. Why? Why is it more important for your choice of carry methods to be comfortable than to be fast in accessing it? Well, quite obviously if it's not comfortable for you, you will eventually decide to leave it home instead of wearing it. It is infinitely better to spend an additional second or so getting your gun into action than to have to run home or out to your vehicle to retrieve it. Few personal defense encounters actually require fast-draw anyway. Ideally, one should choose the means and position for their weapon which permits both a smooth, rapid presentation and all day, uninterrupted carry. Another important consideration is discretion. Your weapon should not "print" or be discernible to the casual observer.

By the way, all of this really means very little without professional training. Having the gun is fine but the knowledge of the laws and knowing when, why and where to shoot can be more important than the actually act of shooting itself.

This is not intended to be a tutorial on how to carry but when to carry so let's change gears here.

Daily carrying is a very difficult concept for most to grasp. As a result, their apathy is very difficult concept for me to grasp. In this day of so very much turbulence and strife and violence, carrying a gun seems like a no-brainer to many of us. It seems to often take a neighbor or loved one getting injured or robbed to encourage one to take that giant leap and consider getting a gun. The fact of the matter is, the criminal element that we face today is more cunning, brutal and savage than at any point in America's history. The lack of values and the absolute, total disregard for human life by so many people these days is stunning. Why some folks think they are immune from the effects of this degradation of society is a mystery to me.

Let's look at some of the top reasons that people come up with not to carry the means to protect themselves on a daily basis...
  • [I don't go places where I feel that I will need a gun] 
Neither does anyone else. This is my hands-down favorite and one of the stupidest things a human being can say. I submit to you that not a single victim of violent assault has chosen to go to the place where they were injured thinking they were going to get injured or killed. Um, if you feel that you may be attacked if you go to a particular place, don't go there, whether you are carrying or not!
  • [There's no need for me to carry a gun because I couldn't shoot someone anyway]
I would like to be gentle, understanding and diplomatic and say that this is a personal decision that is your choice and your choice alone. However, I am neither gentle or diplomatic so I will tell you this a very close second to the stupidest response to this seemingly simple question. There are a few things to consider here in your choices.

#1. In our classes we emphasize the fact that you are not taking a life, you are saving one (or more). The choice that you have been forced to make is in response to a choice that your assailant made voluntarily. To him, this an acceptable hazard of employment. You should feel no guilt for protecting yourself or someone else. There will likely be a reasonable degree of remorse as no normal person enjoys taking a life but, again, it wasn't your choice so don't let it consume you.

#2. There is no Atheist in a foxhole. This isn't exactly the same but the concept is similar. For those that are against guns or against shooting someone, let me tell you how it's likely to play out. Ladies, you will wake up one night with a naked man or men with a knife or a gun standing over you about to have his way with you. Men, maybe you will be forced to sit in your favorite chair and watch as this happens to your wife or daughter. Maybe you will be tied up while they ransack the house and then set it on fire (this actually happened to a man a few years ago. He was the only one that survived. I wonder what he would have given for a gun that night?) Or maybe you will be attacked by a mindless junkie in a dark parking lot in his effort to score enough cash for another fix.
If you imagine any of these scenarios happening to you personally, what's the first thing that comes to mind? One of two things...I wish I had a gun or I wish someone with a gun were here to help me.

#3. You may not be the only one to consider. What about an innocent family member, maybe your child. So you won't shoot someone to save yourself but would you shoot to save your child? I would sure hope so.
  • [I'm not paranoid]
I'm not either. I carry a gun
  • [It's too heavy to carry all the time]
Trade it in and get another one. Better yet, if finances allow, keep it for a spare or a house gun and get something more suitable for everyday carry.
  • [What would my friends/spouse think?]
Who cares? It's your life. If they can't get over it, get new friends and you made a bad choice in a spouse.
  • [It's not legal in my city/state]
MOVE! Go where the freedom is! There is no job or house so important (to me) that you cannot start over where freedom exists.

There is no excuse for not carrying a gun unless you are a prohibited possessor. If you can legally buy one, you can legally carry one as long as you live in a relatively free state. There is some form of carry law in all 50 states now although some of them are horribly restrictive.

Considering all that I have relayed to you so far, think about what happened yesterday in Moore, Oklahoma...

A man was fired from a food packing facility and promptly attacked a lady co-worker, beheaded her then proceeded to stab another lady co-worker. Listening to the 911 call, we hear a man making the call and both men and women screaming and hollering in the background. The man that made the call had knowledge of what was going on but apparently wasn't actually at the scene. All the people screaming were obviously there or were exiting the area. One man, all by himself, had the time to stab and cut the head off of a person with no significant interference from the several people that were there. If anyone had a gun, they were unwilling to use it. No one was willing to grab a chair or a telephone or a keyboard or a coffee pot or pen or a letter opener or a briefcase or any one of the dozens of other expedient weapons that are present in virtually any workplace or home and stop this man from killing one and injuring another. Why? Because we have been conditioned to rely on the authorities to save us. We're soft and vulnerable. Call 911. Don't fight back. Finally, an off-duty sheriff's deputy who happened to be the beheader's former boss, shot and wounded him and stopped the attack. He carried a gun. Oklahoma has pretty darned good gun laws and there is no excuse not to be carrying a gun.

Similar scenarios have taken place in theaters, schools, churches and workplaces across the Nation for years. But it always happens to someone else, right? There are people in Moore, Oklahoma that would disagree today.



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The next class will be in Lincoln, CA on 18 October and at a dramatically reduced price due to the hard work or our host and the fact that the following day will be an 8-hour Disaster Preparedness class.

If you are interested in either of these classes, please email me at: lincolnga@outlook.com This address is for use ONLY by my FaceBook friends, and The Shooting Bench subscribers and listeners and will be disposed of after this class. Take both classes and get a free copy of my book, "DYING...is NOT an option!" Pre-registration is required.

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Southwest Shooting Authority

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02 September 2014

SWSA Mobile Training Unit

Southwest Shooting Authority is going back on the road!

After about a 9 month hiatus working a number of logistical issues, we now feel that we can get back on the road from time to time and offer a limited number of classes "off-campus". That means that we can bring many of our classes to YOUR area!

The next confirmed classes will be held in Lincoln, CA on 18 & 19 October. Saturday the 18th will be a Glock Armorers class and the 19th will be an 8-hr Disaster Preparedness seminar. Because of the absolute awesomeness of our host, prices for both these classes have been absolutely slashed! Slots are filling and we expect these classes to go quickly so go to SWSA Mobile Training Unit and see what you need to do to get signed up!

Check out what you can do to get training in your area and receive FREE training!

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Southwest Shooting Authority



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11 November 2013

Veterans Day


Veterans Day. What do you say? Happy Veterans Day? Is that the appropriate greeting? Are some of us supposed to be happy because we have lost friends in battle? Are some of us happy to have escaped with our lives and made it back home safely? Are some of us happy that we were able to serve but never experienced the horrors of war?
 
What is the correct salutation for the day? This isn't a birthday or Christmas. I don't think this is a joyous occasion for most of us. Veterans Day may bring on the worst memories and nightmares that a person can have or it may be just another reason to get drunk and have fun. 

What are we supposed to say and how do we respond? I think maybe the correct salutation for the day might be something like...

"Thank you. Thank you for your service and your sacrifices, whether here or abroad, in times of war for your blood, sweat and tears or in times of peace for standing ready to face the Beast. If you have put on the uniform, taken the oath, upheld that oath and battled for us or stood ready to do so, thank you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I thank you for my family's safety. I thank you for my country's well-being. God bless each and every one of you. God bless your families for the personal sacrifices that they have had to make while you do your duty to God and Country. Thank all of you, past, present and future. The time will come when we will have to battle the Beast again, here. Thank you for fighting the evil that others pretend does not exist."

The appropriate response? "You're Welcome"

Cope Reynolds (Desertscout)

Southwest Shooting Authority



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25 October 2013

Shooting children with toy guns

A recent, tragic shooting incident in California found a 13 year old boy dead at the hands of local police. His crime? Being armed with a very realistic-looking AK-47 air rifle and a plastic pistol. The rifle did not have any markings or colored parts to distinguish it from a real gun. The boy was wearing a hoodie and turned towards the cops when ordered to drop the gun resulting in his death.

The comments that come from the ignorant about defensive shooting never ceases to amaze me. There are so many "experts" out there, some that don't even own guns, that seem to have all the answers when it comes to what someone would or should do under the stress of a deadly force situation. "Why didn't he fire a warning shot first?", "Why didn't the officer shoot him in the leg?",  "Why did he shoot to kill?".
  
The "shoot to kill" issue has been an issue since guns were invented and people that have never had any professional defensive firearms training just don't get it. Police, like civilians, are taught to shoot to stop, not shoot to kill. Unfortunately, the largest and easiest target to hit under stress is the torso or "center mass" as some like to call it. Unknowledgable people often ask, "Why couldn't they have just shot him in the leg/shoulder?" or (I love this one) "Couldn't you just shoot the gun out of his hand?". Um, no. It is virtually impossible to do either under the stress of a lethal force scenario, whether real or perceived. I've seen dozens of people fall apart and make the wrong decisions even under the stress of a training.
 
Listen, I'm one of the most vocal opponents of the many jack-booted thugs out there.
I also strongly support those peace officers that uphold their oath. One has only to listen to my radio show once to figure out where I stand on this kind of thing. However, I am also a professional defensive firearms trainer and have been involved in several altercations involving firearms throughout my life.  The time factor involved between making initial contact with a gun-wielding individual and having to make that decision to shoot often is only a few seconds. The person with the gun is generally an adult and knows what he is doing. That person has only 2 choices; drop the gun instantly on command or test his skills and speed against one or more LEO's that probably already have their gun drawn, on target and their finger on the trigger. Unless you are exceeding well trained and experienced, you have little chance of surviving that scenario. 
 
Unfortunately, a child sees his toy gun for what it is and that command may be confusing to him as he turns to face the sound of the command. Unlike most movies and the fantasy world that liberals live in, a cop or a civilian in a self-defense scenario doesn't have all day to figure out all the details of what the person they are facing is actually doing. Viewing a 13 year old with a hood over his head with a realistic-looking gun is his hands from the rear doesn't really offer much information. When that individual turns towards the cop, the cop at that point has maybe 2 seconds MAX to make the decision to shoot or not. In this day and age, the chances of encountering a real threat vastly out-weigh the chances of encountering some stupid kid with a real-looking gun. Crass as it may sound, the cop or the armed civilian sometimes has to instantly process a minimal amount of information and then play the odds. Sometimes, they make the wrong choice. Usually, there is no way determine that until its too late.

 
Having not been there, I will not speculate on what the cops COULD have done but I know what the kid SHOULD have done. Having not been there and only a news article to go by, the cop made the only reasonable choice that he could. When it comes down to it, I blame the parents. What kind of a moron would allow their kid to walk around in Kalifornia carrying a real-looking illegal weapon with a hood on his head nowadays? As I said earlier, in some areas you might get away with it but with the liberal mindset of the average person in KA, I really wouldn't have expected this to turn out any other way.


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10 June 2013

WHY I CARRY OPENLY

                                                           WHY I CARRY OPENLY

So, here we are in an age where carrying a gun has become increasingly both necessary and socially unacceptable. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Or maybe it should be "frowned on if you do and DEAD if you don't". Some of us are so eager to please others or at least reluctant to offend them, that we either don't carry at all (unless we're with a certain group of friends) or are paranoid about someone seeing it or finding out about it. Carrying concealed or openly is, for the most part, purely a personal decision but I would like to try to clear the water a bit for those that are struggling with this decision.

I carry both openly and concealed, depending on the circumstances. Openly about 99.975% of the time and concealed for those few times when I think it would be prudent. I am not against carrying concealed (CC), I just don't usually see the point in it where I live. When I go to some larger cities or areas where I am in close proximity to hordes of people that I don't know, I may carry concealed. When I go to the theater, I conceal. Not because it’s law but because it’s common sense.

I simply cannot believe the excuses and hype that I hear from some folks when this subject comes up. I guess carrying a gun is something relatively new for lots of folks. In many places, especially out here in the West, putting your gun on every day and wearing it openly is no different than putting on your hat or a pair of gloves or a tool-belt. The never-ending drivel about tactical advantages and disadvantages and making yourself a target sickens me. Certainly there are times and places where carrying openly may not be the best thing but come on!

How in the world can one believe that we should have a right and then, in the same breath, say that it is one that should go un-exercised? That is one of the most ridiculous things that I have ever heard. Like any other right (or muscles), if they are not used, they will be weakened or lost.

Some say there could not possibly be a single tactical advantage to OC. Is that because your favorite gun-writer says so? They say it very definitively like it was some kind of proven statistic. It is not. I've heard this statement many times and it still doesn't make any sense. You cannot possibly have a clue as to how many crimes or attacks have been prevented because the would-be perpetrator saw someone with a gun in the area and changed his mind. If you were intent on robbing a store or a bank, would you go ahead with your plans if you saw someone standing in line wearing a gun? Of course not! Yes, I have no doubt that a "team" or a small country that wanted to knock off Ft. Knox would not let one civilian with a gun slow them down but the fact is, most people that perform these kinds of crimes are punks and cowards or too smart to want to get involved in a shoot-out. It MIGHT hold true in a very few isolated instances but that is for you to decide when the time comes.

Then there are those that claim that carrying openly makes you a target and that you'll be the first one taken out. I say balderdash. Is it possible? Sure. Is it likely? About as likely as getting hit by lightning twice I think. If someone just wants to kill someone, they will. There are hundreds of interviews of convicted felons where they have said that they would not or did not carry out a plan due to employees or occupants or customers being armed. Can you count on not being a target? Certainly not. Nor can you count on not becoming a target if you are carrying concealed or not carrying at all. Possibly, the perpetrator, upon seeing a gun, changed his mind and a shooting was averted. Possibly not. Possibly, because you were carrying concealed, the crook was a little braver and you were forced into a shooting. To exclaim that you are certain of either is the height of arrogance and cannot be proven.

It's a personal choice and you are taking a bit of a chance by doing either. It comes with the territory.

I think the biggest difference in some folks' opinions and mine is our locations. If I lived somewhere that I thought it was as bad as some make it out to be, I would move. Nobody cares here. As I mentioned above, I have carried openly every single day from 1994 to present and I’ve had maybe 2 or 3 negative comments, in nearly 20 YEARS! Arizona, Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado, etc, etc. Same story. I guess the bottom line is, I will NOT live where carrying a gun in the open scares people as bad as some claim that it does. If I lived in St. Louis, maybe I wouldn't carry but I WOULDN'T live there so it doesn't matter.

No, I don't intentionally TRY to offend folks. I just don't care if I do. I don't fart at the table and I don't say certain words around women and kids. When I am in someone's home, I do as they wish. If that bothers me, I leave. When they come to my house, I expect them to conduct themselves in a manner that is consistent with how we live. However, I don't think exercising a right can be compared to fartin' and cussin' but common sense has to factor in somewhere too. People are offended by guns because of emotion, not morals or scruples. As far as I'm concerned, when we worry about how much we offend them, they have won.

This is the reason that we will never win all of our rights back without bloodshed. Because the gun-grabbers all agree on one thing and we can't agree on anything. Some gun owners think it's OK to own pumps and lever guns but not semi-autos. Some say it's OK to have shotguns but not black rifles. Some say 10 round mags are OK but not 30 rounders. Some say it's OK to carry a gun as long we don't offend anyone and others don't care. As for me and my house, it's all or nothing. I'm tired of compromising. It's not working.

Be that as it may, you may be interested to know that I addressed this very thing on a radio show that I hosted in New Mexico some years ago. I said even though it was legal and we had a right to carry openly just about anywhere, it wasn't necessarily the right thing to do in some cases. I said that those that wave the Constitution in everyone's face and say the 2nd amendment is their carry permit are going to eventually disarm all of us. I admonished those that were so inclined to either carry concealed or don't take their gun in places like theaters, churches, Boys and Girls Clubs, etc. NM’s CCW law states, as most do, that if a business or individual puts up a sign saying "No Guns" that means no guns, openly or concealed, permit or not. So, if we walk in someplace that is NOT posted and try to force our right to carry on them, all they have to do is put up a sign and your right to carry is gone without changing the law. At least in that particular place. THAT's why I don't open carry in the theater.

To that end, I very much encourage people to carry concealed under those circumstances. I never encourage people to carry openly except by saying that it is your right and if you want to, you should exercise that right. As far as just walking down the street and tending to my normal business, I absolutely will NOT carry concealed just for fear of hurting someone's feelings.

The difference here is that a lot of folks don't seem to support my right as I have clearly supported theirs. If some of you think that there is some perceived tactical advantage to being concealed, that's OK with me, I just don't agree. I won't call you dumb or disparage you in any manner. As I have said more than once, there may be a handful of cases out there where that has proven to be the case but to say that carrying openly has NEVER given an advantage is ridiculous because it cannot be proven either way.

As I also said, location has a lot to do with this. Some are afraid to carry openly even where it is legal because of what the cops MIGHT say. THAT is where I have a problem. I was pulled over in a little town in NV late one night by a female officer. She asked me to get out and, since I was carrying openly, I told her that I was wearing a gun and asked if that was OK. She got kind of smart and said, mockingly, "You're wearing a gun and is that OK?" I said , "Yes, Ma'am". She told me to get out and keep my hands where she could see them (like that would do her any good if I had less than honorable intentions) and called in my information. She called back-up and when he got there, we discussed the finer points of the Glock vs. the 1911 and he finally left when he decided that she didn't really need any back-up. When she handed my license back, she said, "So why are you carrying a gun?" to which I asked, "Why are you?". She said, "Because I'm law enforcement and I HAVE to". I said, "Well, I'm a citizen and I GET to". She had nothing on me and we both went our merry ways.

I was stopped another time by a State cop in NM for a faulty tail light. I told him that I could fix it on the spot if he would allow me to. He said OK, and I told him I was carrying before I got out. He said that for his safety, would I unload the gun and give it to him and I told him, "No, sir" and then went to explain that my vehicle was considered an extension of my home in this state and that I would be glad to leave it in the truck while I got out to fix the light. I didn't give him time to reply and he was in a position of advantage so I turned the inside light on and slowly and deliberately took the gun out and slid it between the seats. When I got out, I locked the doors and left the keys in the ignition so NO ONE could get them. Once I fixed the light, I thanked him, took the spare key out of my wallet and unlocked the door and left.

There is rarely any issue with LE in the southwest if you conduct yourself properly and confidently.

There are a select few states that allow it's citizens to carry their weapons out in the open but there is a select FEWER that choose to exercise that right for fear of hurting someone's feelings.

There are quite a few establishments nowadays that choose to post signs that prohibit the carry of firearms, openly or concealed, within their walls. This is another of the many things that gives me deep and lasting indigestion. If you don't want to be robbed or have a disgruntled employee take out his frustration on your patrons, why do you create such a hazard-free environment for those that might perpetrate such a crime? Do you seriously think that a guy intent on robbing your store, or worse, is going to walk up to your door, see your "No Guns" sign and say, "Oh darn , I sooooooo wanted to rob this place but the sign says I can't even bring my gun in so I guess I'll just have to go somewhere else?". No, by posting that sign, you have pretty much assured the criminal that there is little, if any, chance that he will be confronted. When trained, credible, responsible citizens carry their weapons in your store and give you their business, you should be grateful that, at least for the time that they are present, your business is protected, at least from violent crime. Most of us will not shoot someone for stealing money as it is replaceable and probably insured. However, I have never met a legitimate gun-toter that would not intervene if someone were to threaten innocents or start shooting.

I think that many post those signs because of fear of the image that some of the patrons might get, not for liability reasons. Obviously, some are for insurance reasons

It is my opinion that if those who do carry regularly WOULD carry openly more often, it would help to desensitize those whom some people are afraid they are going to offend. Well, it offends ME when someone is offended by my carrying (which, as I said, is RARELY an issue here in the Southwest). I have my rights just like they have theirs. They have the right to get up and go eat somewhere else if they happen to come into a restaurant where I am eating. They have the right to run home screaming if they see me walking down the street and I am armed. I, on the other hand, have the right to do anything that they can do and their being there doesn't affect me one way or the other. The reason that gun rights are in the shape that they are in is because we gun owners continuously pander to them and try to compromise to a point that is OK with them. We walk around and hide what we do or give certain rights away to retain others. That's not freedom to me.

I don't flaunt it as a few have said. I think that if one is going to carry openly that they should dress neatly and wear your gear professionally and conservatively. I don't think that it's appropriate to wear a 7.5” Super Blackhawk downtown in cheap nylon Wal-Mart holster. Yes, occasionally when I come in from hunting or something and I'm carrying a .44, I may stop to get a Coke or gas or something and I'm not going to take my gun off just because someone else may not approve of it but what I wear daily is a Glock 23 in a kydex belt holster with my shirt tail tucked in. I dress neatly and there is nothing threatening about my appearance (unless you feel threatened by someone that is 6’4”, 250 pounds and wearing a gun ). Once in a while, I get a question or two but I have yet to experience the fear and panic that some claim is going to happen.

Occasionally, someone tells me how much that they value the 2nd amendment. Well, so do I...as it was written, not as they would have me to accept it. Having said all that, I do believe that there are a very few places where it may be grossly inappropriate to carry openly like church or some business meetings or picking the kids up at the Boys and Girls Club. In those few places, I do carry but it is concealed. If it's an impromptu occasion, I simply un-tuck my shirt and let it cover the gun. If it's planned, like for church or some similar event, I wear a Glock 27 in a Blade Tech IWB holster and a jacket or vest.

I don't flaunt it, make a big deal out of it nor do I handle it in any manner when in public and I have NEVER had any problem.

I WILL NOT CRAWL AROUND AND EXERCISE MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS ONLY WHEN IT IS ACCEPTABLE WITH SOMEONE ELSE OR WHERE THEY CANNOT SEE

There are those who will not stand up for a passing flag unless a few people around them do. Well I am the one around them that is first to stand. I couldn’t care less what everyone around me does. I have a man to face every day in the mirror and someone else to face when I leave this world. I plan to be able to walk uprightly before Him and say that I have done the best I could to uphold and exercise the rights and freedoms that I was blessed with at my birth.

Open or concealed, I WILL carry. I don't ever want to have to say, "My little girl would have been 15 years old today if I had only had my gun with me that day"... No sir, somehow I just don't see that happening.
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Cope Reynolds (Desertscout)

Southwest Shooting Authority



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04 June 2013

The Target Conspiracy

Sigh....

OH MY, the feds are training their agents to kill innocent, pregnant women!

This just won't go away!  

These targets are not a threat to anyone. I am one of the biggest conspiracy theorists out there is but this is just silly. I can't believe that there are mature, supposedly educated adults, MEN, worrying about these silly damn targets.

During WWI, it was determined that many soldiers were missing their targets because men don't like bullseyes which is what they all trained on to start with. After going to a little more realistic humanoid silhouette, things started to change for the better. The same goes for current times. Things evolve, usually for the better. The more realistically we train, the better we perform on the street.

Photo targets of REAL people have been used in professional and LE defensive firearms training for years. My first experience with them was in 2003, 10 years ago. Since then, I have shot hundreds of them and have stacks of them in my training supplies.

Someone said earlier, "I have yet to see "gangbanger" targets, "middle east" targets, "black targets" "politician" targets, or "muslim" targets."


We have hundreds and hundreds of the very targets that you list. ALL of them. They are not new either.
Muslim/terrorist? http://letargets.com/estylez_item.aspx?item=10RT


Muslim terrorist? http://letargets.com/estylez_item.aspx?item=13RT


A black man? Dayton, OH PD uses this one...
http://letargets.com/estylez_item.aspx?item=DPD-03


Not to pick on blacks, how about Asian? Dayton PD uses this one also... http://letargets.com/estylez_item.aspx?item=DPD-11


Gangbanger?
http://letargets.com/estylez_item.aspx?item=USV-11


Politician? Maybe...
http://letargets.com/estylez_item.aspx?item=WV-5

I did a very short, 3-minute search online yesterday and quickly found 2 instances where a police officer was forced to shoot a pregnant woman who was attacking him. Stuff happens gentlemen! There are instances where an injured woman attacked the cop who had just shot her husband...WHILE HER HUSBAND WAS BEATING HER! People do very strange things under stress. Drugs, depression, mental illness, desperation causes people to react in unpredictable ways.

The targets in question (and why I don't know) are being used by a LOT of agencies right now. However, they are no longer being produced and when current stocks are depleted, they will be gone forever until someone wises up and creates some more. You may be interested to know that these targets were created by a FEMALE police officer. Not DHS, not NMDPS, not the target company.

We have 4 levels of defensive handgun training, two rifle and two shotgun and we use photographic targets of real people in certain stages almost every class. Every LEA dictates what targets their training programs will use. WASHINGTON CRIMINAL JUSTICE uses a stupid little silhouette with an image of bowling pin in it. How realistic is that? How realistic is ANY solid silhouette?

Every hostage rescue target out there has one hostage taker on one side. What happens if your hostage taker is on the other side? Most folks shoot the hostage. I designed a target that has a hostage taker on both sides to practice realistically. You can see it here: http://letargets.com/estylez_item.aspx?item=BT-10H2

Professional, reality-based training is a hell of a lot different than standing on clean gravel on a square range with birds singing and the sun shining. Step out of the box. Don't be a statistic.

This conspiracy crap can eat us up if we don't throw a little common sense in with it.


Cope Reynolds (Desertscout)

Southwest Shooting Authority



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Southwest Shooting Authority is now officially nomadic!

OK, the move is complete! 

Southwest Shooting Authority is now located in Show Low, AZ. Due to a number of problems with our last location, we made the decision to relocate. We're now at 1201 E. Cooley St. Ste "G" in Show Low. Our new phone is 928-537-GUNS (4867).

The store is now divided up into sections due to the lay-out of the building and we have a bigger, nicer classroom. We're are going to ramp up our training with additional classes this year and maybe not travel quite as much but we can still bring classes to your area if needed.


I hope to ya'll at the Arizona Freedom Fest here in Slow Low on 14,15 and 16 June. Lots of great speakers, music, food, a private gun show and other vendors as well.


Cope Reynolds (Desertscout)

Southwest Shooting Authority



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06 May 2013

Phoenix 2nd Amendment Rally

Thanks to George Dean and the rest that made this rally possible and for inviting me to speak. I appreciate the hell out of everyone that showed up but attendance was kinda low for such a population base to work with. I'm gonna guess that we had around 300 there.
Here is the speech I gave.... 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd0BgLPaByc
 
Cope Reynolds (Desertscout)

Southwest Shooting Authority


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23 December 2012

Christmas week on TSB!

Don't miss The Shooting Bench this week!

Amy and I will doing a live, 3-hr Christmas show on Christmas eve from 2 to 5pm Pacific.
Of course, we will take Christmas Day off.

Our constitutional scholar Guy Shepard will be on with me Wednesday the 26th. We will discuss nullification, constitutional convention and the current gun crisis from a constitutional aspect.

Mike Vanderboegh, the popular blogger that broke the Fast and Furious scandal story will be on Thursday the 27th.

Friday, the 28th my guest will be Michael Evans of America's Voice Now.






15 December 2012

Dissecting Evil...

There are several points to ponder brought about by senseless and tragic school shootings. 

Let's take Sandy Hook for instance...

The first and most obvious is the loss of 26 lives, particularly the 20 innocent, helpless children that depend on responsible adults every day to keep them safe. My family and I will continue to pray for them and their families. How terribly heartbreaking it must be to go into the holiday season having lost loved ones so recently.

The second point is emotion, anger and fear. Everyone talks about how evil and terrible the kid is that did the shooting but I haven't heard any talk of prayer for him. Sane, normal people do not shoot innocent school children. The young man obviously had something terribly wrong going on in his head to perpetrate such a terrible deed. None of us can possibly know what he must have been feeling to make him do the things that he did. He had his whole life ahead of him too. There will be those that will grieve for him and miss him this Christmas as well.
Would I have killed him had I been there? Absolutely. Without a moment's hesitation. That doesn't mean that I have to hate him to do it. It simply means that I cannot allow the killing of innocents. The moment that this young man's mind snapped, the moment that Satan took control of his actions, he became the Beast. He became the evil that some pretend doesn't exist and should have been stopped by someone that knows that it does. Unfortunately, there was no one present that had the willingness to confront the Beast and he murdered until he felt the need to kill himself.

Which brings us to the third point....

People need to try to come to grips with the fact that we live in an increasingly violent world. Not by our choice but by God's. I believe that it is simply a part of the Greater Plan.
Violence thrives on fear and weakness. Violence MUST be met with violence if we are to survive! As distasteful as this may seem to some, it is a cold, hard fact of the society that we live in today. Therefore, we MUST be armed, prepared and willing at all times to confront the Beast when he knocks on our door. By this, I mean that all good and decent people MUST be armed at all times! ALL TIMES! We do not have the luxury of being able to choose the time when an attack will befall us or our loved ones.  It is imperative that we not only train and carry a weapon with us every waking moment of our adult lives, we must also work on developing the mindset that will allow us to perform an act that goes against everything that good and decent people have been taught from childhood -- we must face the reality of being forced to injure or kill another human being. We need to understand that it is justifiable, both by man's law and by God's law, to perform this act in defense of ourselves or others.

Sadly, the Beast will not die when his vehicle expires. No, the Beast will find another carrier to continue his evil work. That is why we MUST be armed and prepared to meet the Beast at all times. The other choice is to submit to him. These are our 2 choices. We will consciously make one or unconsciously make the other. We absolutely must, MUST be prepared to meet the Beast while we are eating dinner, at the movies, at work, even while we sleep! The Beast will not rest and so must we not rest in our vigilance against it

When we accept these principles of survival, we can more comfortably and confidently go about our daily lives. It is the world that we live in, like it or not. Making the sheep understand this ancient and everlasting principle of life is another issue.
This principle became carved in stone the day that Cain murdered Abel and it holds true today.

Lastly, the bleeding heart libs will use these tragedies to push a ton of hell down on us in the form of the most draconian gun legislation this country has ever seen. This will be another battle, a battle for freedom, that we must be prepared to fight with every fiber of our moral being. Our rights WILL be taken away from us if we do not put everything we have into the upcoming battle! What about those children's rights you ask? Yeah, what about them? What if just one sheepdog could have been there to confront the wolf? Oh, I forgot. Generally speaking, it is illegal for responsible adults to bring the necessary tools to protect our children to schools in most states.

Too bad criminals don't follow the rules. 


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14 November 2012

2-day Preparedness/Survival/Firearm seminar.

 Here's what we have coming up on 1 & 2 December...

2-day Preparedness/Survival/Firearm seminar.

This class will be held at the beautiful Cherry Creek Lodge near Young, AZ. On Saturday, there will be 8 FULL hours of disaster preparedness information. Every conceivable facet of disaster preparedness and urban survival

that can be squeezed into 8 hours will be covered. Then we will take a long supper break and come back for a couple of hours of cold weather preparedness information. We'll discuss weapons, pets, home, vehicle, traveling and camping in cold weather. The rest of the evening will be dedicated to socializing and Q&A.

Sunday will start off with a firearms safety class, an explanation of AZ gun laws and a discussion of the justification of the use of lethal force. This will qualify you for a CCW permit in several states including AZ. If you already have your permit, it never hurts to sit through a refresher! We will then move out to the range and, after some demonstrations, you will be allowed to handle and shoot a number of weapons that are well suited for preparedness/survival uses. All firearms and ammunition will be furnished at no additional cost.

There are 3 packages to choose from.

1. The Full-Meal-Deal! All of the above PLUS lodging and all meals for $469

2. RV or tent camping on the property. $295! You furnish your own meals or purchase at the lodge at a very reasonable price.

3. Provide your own food and lodging off the property. Training only - $285 (includes property usage fee)

All meals are all-you-can-eat!

Call SWSA at 928-367-2547 for more information or to make reservations. Pre-registration is required! Space is limited so don't put it off!

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Cope Reynolds (Desertscout)

Southwest Shooting Authority



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